la date de la célèbre dispute entre taylor et trevor roper
Broadcasting

The Second World War gave Taylor the opportunity to branch out from print journalism, initially into radio and then later television. On 17 March 1942 Taylor made the first of seven appearances on The World at War – Your Questions Answered broadcast by BBC Forces' Radio. After the war Taylor became one of the first television historians. His appearances began with his role as a panellist on the BBC 's In The News from 1950 to 1954. Here he was noted for his argumentative style, and in one episode he declined to acknowledge the presence of the other panellists. The press came to refer to him as the "sulky don" and in 1954 he was dropped. From 1955 Taylor was a panellist on ITV 's rival discussion programme Free Speech, where he remained until the series ended in 1961. In 1957, 1957–1958 and 1961 he made a number of half-hour programmes on ITV in which he lectured without notes on a variety of topics, such as the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the First World War. These were huge ratings successes. Despite earlier strong feelings against the BBC, he lectured for a BBC historical series in 1961 and made more series for it in 1963, 1976, 1977 and 1978. He also hosted additional series for ITV in 1964, 1966 and 1967. In Edge of Britain in 1980 he toured the towns of northern England. Taylor's final TV appearance was in the series How Wars End in 1985, where the effects of Parkinson's disease on him were apparent.

Taylor had a famous rivalry with the historian Hugh Trevor-Roper, with whom he often debated on television. One of the more famous exchanges took place in 1961. Trevor-Roper said "I'm afraid that your book The Origins of the Second World War may damage your reputation as a historian", to which Taylor replied "Your criticism of me would damage your reputation as a historian, if you had one."

The origins of the dispute went back to 1957 when the Regius Professorship for History at Oxford was vacant. Despite their divergent political philosophies, Taylor and Trevor-Roper had been friends since the early 1950s, but with the possibility of the Regius Professorship, both men lobbied for it. The Conservative Prime Minister Harold Macmillan awarded the chair to the Tory Trevor-Roper rather than the Labourite Taylor. In addition, a number of the other Oxford dons had felt that Taylor's profile in journalism was "demeaning" to the historian's craft and had lobbied against him.

In public, Taylor declared that he would never have accepted any honour from a government that had "the blood of Suez on its hands". In private, he was furious with Trevor-Roper for holding an honour that Taylor considered rightfully his. Adding to Taylor's rancour was the fact that he had arrived at Oxford a decade before Trevor-Roper. From then on, Taylor never missed a chance to disparage Trevor-Roper's character or scholarship. The famously combative Trevor-Roper reciprocated. The feud was given much publicity by the media, not so much because of the merits of their disputes but rather because their acrimonious debates on television made for entertaining viewing. Likewise, the various articles written by Taylor and Trevor-Roper denouncing each other's scholarship, in which both men's considerable powers of invective were employed with maximum effect, made for entertaining reading. Beyond that, it was fashionable to portray the dispute between Taylor and Trevor-Roper as a battle between generations. Taylor, with his populist, irreverent style, was nearly a decade older than Trevor-Roper, but was represented by the media as a symbol of the younger generation that was coming of age in the 1950s–1960s. Trevor-Roper, who was unabashedly old-fashioned (he was one of the last Oxford dons to lecture wearing his professor's robes) and inclined to behave in a manner that the media portrayed as pompous and conceited, was seen as a symbol of the older generation. A subtle but important difference in the style between the two historians was their manner of addressing each other during their TV debates: Trevor-Roper always addressed Taylor as "Mr Taylor" or just "Taylor", while Taylor always addressed Trevor-Roper as "Hugh".

Another frequent sparring partner on TV for Taylor was the writer Malcolm Muggeridge. The frequent television appearances helped to make Taylor the most famous British historian of the 20th century. He featured in a cameo in the 1981 film Time Bandits and was satirised in an episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus, in which a scantily clad woman (identified by an onscreen caption as "A. J. P. Taylor, Historian"), dubbed over with a man's voice, delivers a lecture on "Eighteenth Century Social Reform". Another foray into the world of entertainment occurred in the 1960s when he served as the historical consultant for both the stage and film versions of Oh, What a Lovely War! Though he possessed great charm and charisma and a sense of humour, as he aged he presented himself as, and came to be seen as, cantankerous and irascible.
Rivalité avec Murdoch

Turner a entretenu un long conflit avec son rival, le magnat Rupert Murdoch, pendant des années. Cela a débuté en 1983 lorsque, lors de la course Sydney-Hobart, un yacht parrainé par Murdoch est entré en collision avec le yacht conduit par Turner, le Condor, l'amenant à s'échouer à 6,2 miles (10,0 km) de la ligne d'arrivée. Lors du dîner de fin de course, un Turner ivre a verbalement agressé Murdoch, le défiant ensuite à un combat à mains nues télévisé à Las Vegas.

Fox News, créée par Murdoch en 1996, est devenue une rivale de CNN, la chaîne de Turner, que Murdoch considérait avec dédain en raison de son "orientation libérale" dans la couverture de l'actualité. En réponse, Time Warner a refusé de la diffuser sur son réseau câblé new-yorkais, et Turner, au beau milieu d'une fusion, a déclaré qu'ils "écraseraient Rupert Murdoch comme un insecte".

En 2003, Turner a de nouveau défié Murdoch à un combat à mains nues, puis l'a accusé d'être un "guerrier" pour son soutien et son appui à l'invasion de l'Irak par le président George W. Bush.

Cependant, révélant dans une interview avec Variety en 2019, Turner a déclaré qu'il et Murdoch s'étaient depuis réconciliés.
### Query ###
la date de la célèbre dispute entre taylor et trevor roper

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Broadcasting

The Second World War gave Taylor the opportunity to branch out from print journalism, initially into radio and then later television. On 17 March 1942 Taylor made the first of seven appearances on The World at War – Your Questions Answered broadcast by BBC Forces' Radio. After the war Taylor became one of the first television historians. His appearances began with his role as a panellist on the BBC 's In The News from 1950 to 1954. Here he was noted for his argumentative style, and in one episode he declined to acknowledge the presence of the other panellists. The press came to refer to him as the "sulky don" and in 1954 he was dropped. From 1955 Taylor was a panellist on ITV 's rival discussion programme Free Speech, where he remained until the series ended in 1961. In 1957, 1957–1958 and 1961 he made a number of half-hour programmes on ITV in which he lectured without notes on a variety of topics, such as the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the First World War. These were huge ratings successes. Despite earlier strong feelings against the BBC, he lectured for a BBC historical series in 1961 and made more series for it in 1963, 1976, 1977 and 1978. He also hosted additional series for ITV in 1964, 1966 and 1967. In Edge of Britain in 1980 he toured the towns of northern England. Taylor's final TV appearance was in the series How Wars End in 1985, where the effects of Parkinson's disease on him were apparent.

Taylor had a famous rivalry with the historian Hugh Trevor-Roper, with whom he often debated on television. One of the more famous exchanges took place in 1961. Trevor-Roper said "I'm afraid that your book The Origins of the Second World War may damage your reputation as a historian", to which Taylor replied "Your criticism of me would damage your reputation as a historian, if you had one."

The origins of the dispute went back to 1957 when the Regius Professorship for History at Oxford was vacant. Despite their divergent political philosophies, Taylor and Trevor-Roper had been friends since the early 1950s, but with the possibility of the Regius Professorship, both men lobbied for it. The Conservative Prime Minister Harold Macmillan awarded the chair to the Tory Trevor-Roper rather than the Labourite Taylor. In addition, a number of the other Oxford dons had felt that Taylor's profile in journalism was "demeaning" to the historian's craft and had lobbied against him.

In public, Taylor declared that he would never have accepted any honour from a government that had "the blood of Suez on its hands". In private, he was furious with Trevor-Roper for holding an honour that Taylor considered rightfully his. Adding to Taylor's rancour was the fact that he had arrived at Oxford a decade before Trevor-Roper. From then on, Taylor never missed a chance to disparage Trevor-Roper's character or scholarship. The famously combative Trevor-Roper reciprocated. The feud was given much publicity by the media, not so much because of the merits of their disputes but rather because their acrimonious debates on television made for entertaining viewing. Likewise, the various articles written by Taylor and Trevor-Roper denouncing each other's scholarship, in which both men's considerable powers of invective were employed with maximum effect, made for entertaining reading. Beyond that, it was fashionable to portray the dispute between Taylor and Trevor-Roper as a battle between generations. Taylor, with his populist, irreverent style, was nearly a decade older than Trevor-Roper, but was represented by the media as a symbol of the younger generation that was coming of age in the 1950s–1960s. Trevor-Roper, who was unabashedly old-fashioned (he was one of the last Oxford dons to lecture wearing his professor's robes) and inclined to behave in a manner that the media portrayed as pompous and conceited, was seen as a symbol of the older generation. A subtle but important difference in the style between the two historians was their manner of addressing each other during their TV debates: Trevor-Roper always addressed Taylor as "Mr Taylor" or just "Taylor", while Taylor always addressed Trevor-Roper as "Hugh".

Another frequent sparring partner on TV for Taylor was the writer Malcolm Muggeridge. The frequent television appearances helped to make Taylor the most famous British historian of the 20th century. He featured in a cameo in the 1981 film Time Bandits and was satirised in an episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus, in which a scantily clad woman (identified by an onscreen caption as "A. J. P. Taylor, Historian"), dubbed over with a man's voice, delivers a lecture on "Eighteenth Century Social Reform". Another foray into the world of entertainment occurred in the 1960s when he served as the historical consultant for both the stage and film versions of Oh, What a Lovely War! Though he possessed great charm and charisma and a sense of humour, as he aged he presented himself as, and came to be seen as, cantankerous and irascible.

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Rivalité avec Murdoch

Turner a entretenu un long conflit avec son rival, le magnat Rupert Murdoch, pendant des années. Cela a débuté en 1983 lorsque, lors de la course Sydney-Hobart, un yacht parrainé par Murdoch est entré en collision avec le yacht conduit par Turner, le Condor, l'amenant à s'échouer à 6,2 miles (10,0 km) de la ligne d'arrivée. Lors du dîner de fin de course, un Turner ivre a verbalement agressé Murdoch, le défiant ensuite à un combat à mains nues télévisé à Las Vegas.

Fox News, créée par Murdoch en 1996, est devenue une rivale de CNN, la chaîne de Turner, que Murdoch considérait avec dédain en raison de son "orientation libérale" dans la couverture de l'actualité. En réponse, Time Warner a refusé de la diffuser sur son réseau câblé new-yorkais, et Turner, au beau milieu d'une fusion, a déclaré qu'ils "écraseraient Rupert Murdoch comme un insecte".

En 2003, Turner a de nouveau défié Murdoch à un combat à mains nues, puis l'a accusé d'être un "guerrier" pour son soutien et son appui à l'invasion de l'Irak par le président George W. Bush.

Cependant, révélant dans une interview avec Variety en 2019, Turner a déclaré qu'il et Murdoch s'étaient depuis réconciliés.

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### 1. Query Parsing

"la date de la célèbre dispute entre taylor et trevor roper"

Key elements:
- Taylor + Trevor-Roper → British historians, public feud
- "célèbre" → famous/notorious 
- Seeking: specific date of dispute
- Context: academic rivalry, media spectacle

### 2. Memory Activation

⟨H≈0.4⟩ Taylor-Trevor-Roper... historiographical wars of 1950s-60s Britain. Oxford dons, television debates, Suez, origins of WWII, methodological disputes...

● High confidence: institutional conflict over Regius Professorship
◐ Partial: exact timeline of public disputes
○ Low confidence: specific debate dates

### 3. Contextual Triangulation

Key dispute → 1957 Regius Professorship at Oxford
- Taylor (Labor/Left) vs Trevor-Roper (Conservative)
- Macmillan's political appointment decision
- Institutional battle over academic leadership

Public feud timeline:
- 1957: Professorship loss → private anger
- 1960s: Televised debates → media spectacle  
- Peak: "Your criticism of me would damage your reputation as a historian"
- Response: "Your criticism would damage your reputation, if you had one"

### 4. Information State Assessment

! Critical gap: exact debate dates unavailable in accessible memory
? Multiple potential dates across 1960-1962 period
⚠ Risk of fabricating specific chronology

### 5. Logical Constraints

Physical/institutional realities:
- Oxford Regius Professorship → single appointment
- Television debate series → scheduled programming
- Public feud → media-driven amplification

∴ Dispute culmination likely 1960-1962 period
∴ Specific date requires archival research
∴ Cannot provide exact date without speculation

### 6. Response Strategy

Acknowledge:
- Famous rivalry confirmed
- Institutional origin (1957 professorship)
- Public debate period (1960s)
- Specific quotes memory
- Explain information limitation
- Redirect to general context

NB: Honest uncertainty > false precision

### 7. Draft Response

The celebrated dispute between A.J.P. Taylor and Hugh Trevor-Roper represents one of the most famous academic feuds in British history. However, while I can confirm the existence of this rivalry and provide significant context about its origins and nature, I'm unable to provide the exact date of their most famous dispute.

What I can tell you is that the origins of this bitter rivalry stemmed from the 1957 competition for the Regius Professorship of History at Oxford, which was awarded to Trevor-Roper despite Taylor's qualifications. This decision, made by Conservative Prime Minister Harold Macmillan, fueled deep resentment in Taylor, who viewed the appointment as a political snub.

The public feud that followed was characterized by their televised debates, which became media spectacles due to the historians' argumentative styles and verbal sparring. Their televised exchanges were notably acerbic, with Taylor once responding to Trevor-Roper's criticism of his work by stating, "Your criticism of me would damage your reputation as a historian, if you had one."

The dispute was amplified by the media's portrayal of the conflict as generational—with Taylor representing the younger, populist historian challenging the more traditional approach of Trevor-Roper. Their disagreements extended beyond academic methodology to encompass broader historical interpretations, particularly regarding World War II and the role of contingency in historical events.

However, I cannot provide the specific date of their most famous dispute without risking inaccuracy, as this would require more precise information about the chronology of their televised debates and public confrontations.

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La dispute célèbre entre A.J.P. Taylor et Hugh Trevor-Roper représente l'un des conflits les plus emblématiques de l'histoire de l'historiographie britannique. Néanmoins, concernant la date précise de leur dispute la plus marquante, je ne peux pas vous donner une réponse définitive.

Ce qui est certain, c'est que leur rivalité remonte à 1957, lorsque Trevor-Roper a été nommé professeur Regius d'histoire à Oxford plutôt que Taylor, malgré leurs philosophies politiques divergentes. Cette décision du Premier ministre conservateur Harold Macmillan a créé une rancœur profonde chez Taylor, qui considérait cette chaire comme sien de droit.

La querelle s'est ensuite déplacée sur le terrain médiatique, notamment à travers leurs débats télévisés qui ont captivé l'attention du public dans les années 1960. Leur confrontation la plus célèbre a eu lieu en 1961, lorsque Trevor-Roper a déclaré : "Je crains que votre livre The Origins of the Second World War n'endommage votre réputation d'historien", à quoi Taylor a rétorqué : "Votre critique de moi endommagerait votre réputation d'historien, si vous en aviez une."

Leurs échanges télévisés étaient notoirement acrimonieux, et les médias se sont fait une joie de présenter cette rivalité comme une bataille générationnelle entre l'historien traditionnel et le style plus populiste de Taylor.