Comment ça se fait que tout le monde croyait que les os c'était de Schiller alors que maintenant on dit que c'est pas lui ?
Legacy and honors

The first authoritative biography of Schiller was by his sister-in-law Caroline von Wolzogen in 1830, Schillers Leben (Schiller's Life).

The coffin containing what was purportedly Schiller's skeleton was brought in 1827 into the Weimarer Fürstengruft (Weimar's Ducal Vault), the burial place of the house of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach in the Historical Cemetery of Weimar and later also Goethe's resting place. On 3 May 2008, scientists announced that DNA tests have shown that the skull of this skeleton is not Schiller's, and his tomb is now vacant. The physical resemblance between this skull and the extant death mask as well as to portraits of Schiller, had led many experts to believe that the skull was Schiller's.

The city of Stuttgart erected in 1839 a statue in his memory on a square renamed Schillerplatz. A Schiller monument was unveiled on Berlin's Gendarmenmarkt in 1871.

The German-American community of New York City donated a bronze sculpture of Schiller to Central Park in 1859. It was Central Park's first installed sculpture.

Chicago dedicated a statue to Schiller in its Lincoln Park.

Schiller Park in Columbus, Ohio is named for Schiller, and has been centered on a statue of his likeness since it was donated in 1891. During the First World War, the name of the park was changed to Washington Park in response to anti-German sentiment, but was changed back several years later. It is the primary park for the South Side neighborhood of German Village.

There is a Friedrich Schiller statue on Belle Isle in Detroit, Michigan. This statue of the German playwright was commissioned by Detroit's German-American community in 1908 at a cost of $12,000; the designer was Herman Matzen.

An Ignatium Taschner bronze of Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller stands in Como Park - Saint Paul, MN. It was dedicated in 1907. The sculpture was donated by U.S. German Societies of Saint Paul and private citizens of German descent to commemorate the renowned Johann von Schiller.

His image has appeared on several coins and banknotes in Germany, including the 1964 German Democratic Republic 10 Mark banknotes, 1972 German Democratic Republic 20 Mark commemorative coins, and 1934 German Reich 5 Reichsmark commemorative coins.

In September 2008, the German-French TV channel Arte conducted a poll among its viewers to determine the greatest European playwright ("King of Drama"). Schiller was voted in second place after William Shakespeare.

On 10 November 2019, Google celebrated his 260th birthday with a Google Doodle.
L'attribution

Environ 230 ans après la mort de Shakespeare, des doutes ont commencé à être exprimés quant à l'attribution des œuvres qui lui sont attribuées. Parmi les candidats alternatifs proposés, on retrouve Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe et Edward de Vere, 17e comte d'Oxford. Plusieurs « théories de groupe » ont également été avancées. Toutes, à l'exception de quelques spécialistes de Shakespeare et historiens littéraires, considèrent cela comme une théorie marginale, avec seulement une petite minorité de chercheurs qui pensent qu'il existe des raisons de remettre en question l'attribution traditionnelle. Néanmoins, l'intérêt pour le sujet, en particulier la théorie oxfordienne de l'attribution de Shakespeare, persiste au XXIe siècle.
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Comment ça se fait que tout le monde croyait que les os c'était de Schiller alors que maintenant on dit que c'est pas lui ?

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Legacy and honors

The first authoritative biography of Schiller was by his sister-in-law Caroline von Wolzogen in 1830, Schillers Leben (Schiller's Life).

The coffin containing what was purportedly Schiller's skeleton was brought in 1827 into the Weimarer Fürstengruft (Weimar's Ducal Vault), the burial place of the house of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach in the Historical Cemetery of Weimar and later also Goethe's resting place. On 3 May 2008, scientists announced that DNA tests have shown that the skull of this skeleton is not Schiller's, and his tomb is now vacant. The physical resemblance between this skull and the extant death mask as well as to portraits of Schiller, had led many experts to believe that the skull was Schiller's.

The city of Stuttgart erected in 1839 a statue in his memory on a square renamed Schillerplatz. A Schiller monument was unveiled on Berlin's Gendarmenmarkt in 1871.

The German-American community of New York City donated a bronze sculpture of Schiller to Central Park in 1859. It was Central Park's first installed sculpture.

Chicago dedicated a statue to Schiller in its Lincoln Park.

Schiller Park in Columbus, Ohio is named for Schiller, and has been centered on a statue of his likeness since it was donated in 1891. During the First World War, the name of the park was changed to Washington Park in response to anti-German sentiment, but was changed back several years later. It is the primary park for the South Side neighborhood of German Village.

There is a Friedrich Schiller statue on Belle Isle in Detroit, Michigan. This statue of the German playwright was commissioned by Detroit's German-American community in 1908 at a cost of $12,000; the designer was Herman Matzen.

An Ignatium Taschner bronze of Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller stands in Como Park - Saint Paul, MN. It was dedicated in 1907. The sculpture was donated by U.S. German Societies of Saint Paul and private citizens of German descent to commemorate the renowned Johann von Schiller.

His image has appeared on several coins and banknotes in Germany, including the 1964 German Democratic Republic 10 Mark banknotes, 1972 German Democratic Republic 20 Mark commemorative coins, and 1934 German Reich 5 Reichsmark commemorative coins.

In September 2008, the German-French TV channel Arte conducted a poll among its viewers to determine the greatest European playwright ("King of Drama"). Schiller was voted in second place after William Shakespeare.

On 10 November 2019, Google celebrated his 260th birthday with a Google Doodle.

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L'attribution

Environ 230 ans après la mort de Shakespeare, des doutes ont commencé à être exprimés quant à l'attribution des œuvres qui lui sont attribuées. Parmi les candidats alternatifs proposés, on retrouve Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe et Edward de Vere, 17e comte d'Oxford. Plusieurs « théories de groupe » ont également été avancées. Toutes, à l'exception de quelques spécialistes de Shakespeare et historiens littéraires, considèrent cela comme une théorie marginale, avec seulement une petite minorité de chercheurs qui pensent qu'il existe des raisons de remettre en question l'attribution traditionnelle. Néanmoins, l'intérêt pour le sujet, en particulier la théorie oxfordienne de l'attribution de Shakespeare, persiste au XXIe siècle.

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### 1. Query Parsing

"Comment ça se fait que tout le monde croyait que les os c'était de Schiller alors que maintenant on dit que c'est pas lui ?"

→ Key misconception: "tout le monde" (everyone) claimed bones were Schiller's
→ Temporal shift: past belief vs. current denial  
→ Implies widespread/authoritative error

Translation nuance: "c'était" (imperfect past) suggests ongoing belief, not just temporary confusion.

### 2. Historical Context Retrieval

Schiller (1759-1805) → German poet/dramatist, Weimar-based
Death: 1805, Weimar → buried initially? 
"Les os" → skeletal remains/skull
?when exactly moved/examined?

⟨H≈0.8⟩ *Weimar... ducal tombs... German Romantic period... national cultural figures... preservation of literary remains... museums of the dead writers...*

### 3. Core Information Triangulation

● DNA testing confirmed skull ≠ Schiller (2008)
◐ Coffin brought to ducal vault: 1827? (need verification)
◐ Death mask + portraits → skull resemblance → initial belief
○ "Tout le monde" overstated - who exactly believed?

Physical constraint check: DNA degradation over ~200 years → testing feasible.

### 4. Logical Pathway Analysis

Original belief formation:
Visual evidence (death mask ↔ skull) + hagiographic context + presumed authenticity

Reversal process:
Scientific testing (DNA analysis) + comparative genetics + conclusive disproof

∴ Classic case: visual authentication bias overridden by molecular evidence

### 5. Cultural Context Expansion

⟨H≈1.2⟩ *German cultural nationalism... literary pilgrimage sites... museumification of writers... Romantic movement's cult of personality... forensic science development in 2000s... post-Enlightenment rationalism challenging Romantic authenticity...*

NB: 2008 timing significant → peak forensic science era
Cf. similar cases: Casanova skull, Mozart remains

### 6. Answer Synthesis

The misconception stemmed from:
- Strong visual resemblance (skull ↔ death mask/portraits)  
- Long-held assumption of authenticity (1827→2008)
- Absence of sophisticated forensic tools initially

Modern resolution via:
- DNA testing capabilities
- Comparative analysis limitations
- Scientific vs. visual evidence hierarchy

⚠ Potential bias: "tout le monde" overstates scholarly consensus
≈ More accurate: "many experts" initially believed, "DNA testing" definitively proved otherwise

Final answer structure:
1. Acknowledge widespread past belief
2. Explain visual evidence basis  
3. Detail 2008 DNA revelation
4. Note cultural/forensic science context
5. Emphasize evidence hierarchy shift

### Answer###
Cette confusion vient d'une erreur d'identification qui a persisté pendant des décennies. Le cercueil contenant ce qui était présumé être le squelette de Schiller avait été amené en 1827 dans la crypte ducale de Weimar, lieu de repos de la maison de Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. 

La croyance générale s'appuyait sur la ressemblance physique entre ce crâne et le masque mortuaire de Schiller ainsi que sur les portraits réalisés de lui. Ces éléments visuels avaient effectivement convaincu de nombreux experts de l'authenticité des restes.

Cependant, en mai 2008, des tests ADN ont révélé que le crâne de ce squelette n'était pas celui de Schiller. Cette découverte scientifique a définitivement écarté toute possibilité que les restes soient effectivement ceux du poète allemand, rendant sa tombe désormais vide.

Cette affaire illustre comment l'apparence physique et les éléments iconographiques peuvent conduire à des erreurs d'identification, même lorsque les autorités et les experts sont convaincus de l'authenticité des preuves.